CHAMBER - Dark Art & Music Festival 2008 - More Details To Come!

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Oct 2008?


Although We REALLY WANT to host a 2008 (maybe a 2009) DAMF show, it's not possible at the moment.
The main reasons are as follows:

  1. THE SCENE / THE BANDS
    The NY Goth/Industrial scene is in a horrible state right now, and lack of sales and support make it harder and harder for promoters such as ourselves to put on a quality production without losing MASSIVE amounts of money. The bands in this industry know that NY is a dying market, and for whatever reason, refuse to work with promoters to give us a break on pricing. Which I do understand, to a point. But as long as these artists demand high performance/guarantee fees, ridiculious hospitality requests, and other expenses, which we feel shouldn't be covered in a contract, has forced us to pass on MANY shows. It also seems as if some bands just don't want to deal with local promoters anymore, instead opting for contracts with Live Nation or similar. What they don't realize, is that Live Nation is like the Walmart of concert venues. They don't care about the quality of the shows. All they care about is pre-ticket sales, and what the payout / splits amounts are going to be at the end of each show. Which is fine, as they do have a business to protect and operate. But where does this leave the local promoters, who'll go out of their way to make sure the fans get to experience a one-of-a-kind local event. Something that will be remembered years from now.
  2. THE FANS
    You, THE FANS. What's going on? The promoters of this great town try to book the biggest and the best Goth/Industrial bands around, and barely anyone shows up! What's going on? Why won't you support your scene anymore? Are you tired, are you getting old, are you broke, are the shows too expensive (look @ #1), do the venues suck, has everything gotten stale? Let us know what is GOING ON, and HELP US FIX IT!
  3. THE VENUES
    It's getting next to impossible to find a decent venue here in NYC. Once in a while, we'll come across one that is willing to work with this scene, but they usually want high rental fees, or offer us crappy door & bar deals, which we feel are not worth our efforts. So, finding a home for the shows is another factor which has affected the NY scene. That is why we decided to host the 2006 CHAMBER Festival in some empty loft warehouse in Brooklyn, and just make it a good ole' fashion Gothic outlaw. Unfortunately, the City Of New York sees it differently, and 'outlaw' events are harder and harder to produce anywhere now within the tri-state area. We lucked out that night, took care of the 'right' people, and secure just enough permits so that they would leave us alone. And alone they left us for that 1 night, and it was truly wonderful.

In conclusion... it's a acumultaion of all these things that affect our scene. We've lost TONS of money on cancelled shows due to one the reasons above. We lost a ton of money on the Front Line Assembly fiasco in 2006, as well as Avalon shutting down and having to cancel the KMFDM show also in 2006, which was part of the DAMF 2006 3 day festival. We are not a big company. Heck, it's only 2 guys and a bunch of people who volunteer to help when they can. We don't even get paid. Instead, we use the money from each show to finance the next show. We're not in this for the money, but we can't lose money either. These last shows really put a damper on things financially, as the losses have to come out of our personal expenditures. Sure, we could be like everyone else and just say fuck off, and not pay anyone, or refund tickets, or just claim bankruptcy, but that's not what we are about. It's about the music, and the fans... Ask anyone that knows us... it's always been about the music.

I am working on something BIG. Something that all of the indie scenes need. But I need help. Are you interested in helping out? You must be OPEN to music. Don't be one of these stuck in a time warp kind of people, or one of these I ONLY LISTEN TO ______ types either. Be open. Support indiependent music... because united we can do anything.

REMEMBER.... IT'S YOUR SCENE. Support It!

 

- Justin
(aka Victor Vortexx,
aka TERMiNAL OPTiC
aka Justin Kaos)

&

TOM
(aka Thunder Tom
aka DJ Easeback)

CHAMBER - NYC Events
Who Would You Like to See Play NYC?
FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY
VELVET ACID CHRIST
VNV NATION
MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE
FUNKER VOGT
CLAN OF XYMOX
WOLFSHEIM
ASSEMBLAGE 23
ATTRITION
ICON OF COIL
NEUROTICFISH
PANZER AG


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FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY SHOW CANCELLED
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CANCELLED

This was a great show!
NO Drama, No Stupid Scene.
Just a GREAT Band in a GREAT Space
with GREAT People.
Thanks Martin & Fans!